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low low low secret base

Hell low,

That Marian lady I'm sweet on has been off on the island
watching her aunt and uncle's giant dogs and I've been here
at home reading comics and chiseling away at some king city.
slow drawing week.

Years ago someone told me that you have to make love to the paper.
What do you call it when the paper doesn't want it but you still have to give it to it?

I do a lot of faked perspective, Where I know where the horizon is and then just draw the thing.
Here's a King city kitchen not looking right.

After a couple failed attempts I broke down and ruled the thing out

And this is the fucker when it finnaly gave in.

I think I'll know that I'm no longer doing it right if it ever becomes easy.

in between pages I did this quick art job.
Not my best work, but i was happy with the frog.
I was aiming for the Rankin bass gollum by way of Sanrio.

Reading CAMIX:

i went though every Twilight x issue. Man, i love that series.
I like how it meanders along with the inbetween scenes after the characters have been fighting nazis where they kick back and eat ding dongs while reading comic books.
I think this thing from the early early first issue I got when I was like 15 really conveys the feel of it all.

No, It doesn't.

And I read the Warren Ellis Ocean series--There's something new and alien about reading good hard science fiction done in like a mainstream american comic. It made me wish there was a comic line like DC's aborted Helix.

And I liked the new batman and Fantastic 4 books. comics might be doing ok that I can say that.

Also, how the fuck did they get away with this as the letters collumn name for the 80's byrne she-hulk?

Was that over the comics codes heads--or did they just like a good tranny joke.
I like to think it's the later.

i also read this 90's Aliens vs predator comic. I like the thought and effort the artist put into these backgrounds.

samurai swords and plants.
Apparently the dude who drew this, Phil Norwood was also the visual effects art director on the Howard the Duck movie.

And I dug out some really well laid out Golf manga. It's a testament to my love of comics
that it can get me to want to look at golf.

And look at how he uses these maps to show where the course is and the lay of the

And here's this amazing wheres waldo style Asterix stuff that a friend sent me a link to.
the gaul.

There's more here:

And someone else sent a link with the City of fire art that Moebius and Darrow did together.
I like how this one shows the differences between what they do.

And them both drawing the same thing. i like that hand Moebius drew.
Dude can put a lot of lines on skin and still make it pretty.
Darrow's not my favorate but he definatly pulled his weight on these.

lots more here:

And now the sun is up, I should sleep. Tomorrow I'm starting a new short story. It should be fun.

Current Location: shhhh (secret)
Current Mood: zzz
Current Music: that spit that hits the street.

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breakbot From: breakbot Date: September 4th, 2009 04:15 pm (UTC) (Link)
...and I know for myself, I'm not doing it right if I'm ever satisfied. =\
craqued From: craqued Date: September 4th, 2009 04:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
aaa i think that kitchen came out splendidly, i love how welcoming and familiar all your settings feel.

haha man, i love how broad manga's genres are. i mean GOLF. golf. thats beautiful that someone likes golf that much.
royalboiler From: royalboiler Date: September 6th, 2009 03:50 am (UTC) (Link)
Thanks, that kitchen almost killed me.
It's funny how the stuff that should be hard is often buisness as usual and the stuff that should be easy can seem impossible.

I think there's a ton of golf manga. For when all those kids who grew up reading devilman get office jobs.
joedecie From: joedecie Date: September 4th, 2009 04:32 pm (UTC) (Link)
I remember at school when i was thirteen we had one lesson on perspective. Only now am I thinking "ahh that perspective thing is everywhere" This latest story I drew I was having to draw all those lines.

Anyways your kitchen looks the business.
From: parkas_4_kids Date: September 4th, 2009 04:38 pm (UTC) (Link)
That King City kitchen looks so spacious! And would I be correct in assuming that those cabinets above the shelf are spice cabinets organized by country from whence the spices came? If so, that's AWESOME. Wish I could do that in my kitchen....
royalboiler From: royalboiler Date: September 5th, 2009 06:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
I was just thinking that they named the cabinets after different contenents nothing as elaborate as spices from around the world.
From: parkas_4_kids Date: September 6th, 2009 01:23 am (UTC) (Link)
Okay, so perhaps I'm looking at this kitchen and projecting my fantasy kitchen onto it. Is that so wrong? I mean, that's normal, right?
westival From: westival Date: September 4th, 2009 04:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
Aww man, that Darrow/Giraud stuff just...crushes me.

I thought you'd appreciate this Moebius lady carrying a fresh bag of T&A:


I think you'd have gotten away with the faked perspective. But it looks great all finished. Tons of credibility.

Lately I've been studying a couple perspective books and doinking with Manga Studio's "perspective ruler." The thing that kills me, is when I follow the ruler and lay down a line in the correct perspective it becomes clear that "I never would have guessed that. I had no idea it should go there."

royalboiler From: royalboiler Date: September 5th, 2009 06:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
That is a fine bag of T and A.
But what is she going to do with it?

Is manga studio some futaristic computer program that I'm unaware of?
and Did you run into any good perspective books?
I want to find something like that "perspective for comic artists" with less unnecisary crap in it.
whatsuptiger From: whatsuptiger Date: September 4th, 2009 04:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
I like your lj. I almost feel like I passed the torch, since I never use mine anymore. I used to read astrix and obelix when I was little because my dad lived in france off and on and had a bunch of (hardcover!) comix. some in french some in english. I just really liked the detail of the artwork, even as an 8 year old.

also at scarecrow we have asterix and obelix cartoons ANNDDD more than one (two?) LIVE-ACTION A&O WITHHHHH NONE OTHER THAN GERRARD DEPEIUXX (TOO LAZY TO LOOK UP THE SPELLING) AS OBELIX (i wonder if I have been spelling that wrong too)!!!! such amazing casting. I have yet to watch em though.
r_dart From: r_dart Date: September 4th, 2009 06:03 pm (UTC) (Link)
The Moebius and Darrow drawings side-by-side is really fascinating.Darrow can draw, but Moebius is a master.
rsjr From: rsjr Date: September 4th, 2009 08:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
I just love the smug expression on the Moebius guy's face. "YOU'RE GOOD... BUT I'M BETTER..."
tundraboy From: tundraboy Date: September 4th, 2009 09:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
While I like Moebius' work better personally, we mustn't forget that City of Fire was from the mid-1980s, and Darrow's had 25 more years to develop craft since then. Not saying he's caught up or anything, just food for thought.
ima_compooter From: ima_compooter Date: September 4th, 2009 07:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
that turtle's skates are the best.

you coming to spx this year?
royalboiler From: royalboiler Date: September 6th, 2009 03:55 am (UTC) (Link)
fucking turtle skates.

I'm not sure about SPX yet. I'm thinking about going to france. If I do that might kill the budget on all other con plans.
chamonkee From: chamonkee Date: September 4th, 2009 08:23 pm (UTC) (Link)
Since you keep showcase awesome bits of comics which inspires me when I'm pondering stuff. I thought I'd return the favor. Have a gander at http://www.randomisgod.com/translate/Cannabis.html I just bought this and it's filled with impressive stuff.
royalboiler From: royalboiler Date: September 6th, 2009 03:57 am (UTC) (Link)
man, that guys stuff is so smooth.
I need to track down that book.
Thanks for the link.
joelcarroll From: joelcarroll Date: September 4th, 2009 11:07 pm (UTC) (Link)
Man, I love your posts...It's SO nice to see other people into these things!

I've gotten used to talking about these books and artists, and no one else seems to care or know who they are...
apeville From: apeville Date: September 4th, 2009 11:08 pm (UTC) (Link)
What I like about that AvP comic is that the artist, Phil Norwood, was a layout artist/designer for movies, and even though AvP was his first comic he turned in a stunning piece of storytelling. I kinda wish the first AvP was based on that comic.

Also, I hate perspective and it hates me. I learnt it decades ago reading How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way, and lost the ability to do perspective properly since :)
royalboiler From: royalboiler Date: September 6th, 2009 04:01 am (UTC) (Link)
I want to go dig up that black and white Aliens comic with Newt and Hicks that came out before the 3rd movie.
I never even saw the AvP filmm. Once I heard it wasn't in space it was dead to me.
apeville From: apeville Date: September 6th, 2009 11:09 am (UTC) (Link)
The Verheiden/Nelson comic? That was excellent, especially as it ended up featuring one of the alien pilots :) I think DH released it in an omnibus. I know they've put out an AvP one that features the Norwood drawn stuff (unfortunately it also features some dreadful AvP comics before Chris Warner's strip in that DH magazine thing).

You wouldn't like the first AvP film. The Predators are too muscly and just don't look right. AvP2 is much better, the Wolf Predator is superb, and much more like the original Predator, and the humans are essentially just cannon fodder - AS IT SHOULD BE! :P
yes_sammyrules From: yes_sammyrules Date: September 5th, 2009 12:44 am (UTC) (Link)
both moebius and darrow make busy pictures, but darrow has this sense of hyper reality, like the first time you watch law and order in HD or something. moebius gives you just enough.
royalboiler From: royalboiler Date: September 6th, 2009 04:05 am (UTC) (Link)
Darrow stresses me out, like if you got a drawing of a tree from him and there weren't like 800 branches and a car engine growing out of it you'd feel scammed where Moebius could draw it with 3 lines and make it pretty as a picture.

Not that Darrow isn't impressive he just draws like he's in prison or some shit and has got nuthing but time.
pixoteandcupido From: pixoteandcupido Date: September 5th, 2009 02:06 am (UTC) (Link)
Did ya get that message I sent a few days ago? is APE still ON?
royalboiler From: royalboiler Date: September 6th, 2009 02:30 am (UTC) (Link)
SF is although ape might not be.
theresomewhere From: theresomewhere Date: September 5th, 2009 07:47 am (UTC) (Link)
i have a bag of sox near my front door too! else i enter this world of every morn, sockless but no less ready for the world! it's when i get to work and i have to change into my work shoes that i miss that bag terribly!! in fact i brought it with me to dragoncon, i don't have too many shirts but i feel well rationed with my dozen or so rolled up socks that have yet to fall prey to the missing in action sock camp...

i saw conan at the con, made me think of you and marian! and rachel asked if you were here brandon, and i said, "no..." but i got her started on king city, i think the big comic format is a lot more inviting... i must measure it up against the beauty magazines and see if there's a strange counsinly size to it. whew... most i've posted in awhile, must be cause i'm stealing the internet, it's always more fun that way! :)

bamfed From: bamfed Date: September 5th, 2009 03:54 pm (UTC) (Link)
Ocean was indeed good comics.

Sometimes I think Wildstorm is capable of making some quality stuff, then they bust out something stupid like another Wetworks relaunch or whatever.
oroko_saki From: oroko_saki Date: September 5th, 2009 06:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
hahaha! i know that feeling, so many times ive drawn something the half assed way when it just doesnt work out and i have to do it over properly, which ends up being easier... and taking less time. but yeh i always think of drawing as a problem that you just have to solve.
From: (Anonymous) Date: September 5th, 2009 11:28 pm (UTC) (Link)
Incredible - that golf course comic is in brisbane, most probably at the royal brisbane course out near the gateway bridge, the skylines changed a bit since it was dran but the detail in the art makes my home town totally recognizable.
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